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Edwin Charles  MAIDMENT

Edwin Charles MAIDMENT

Male 1820 - 1884  (64 years)

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  • Name Edwin Charles MAIDMENT  [1
    Born 1 Jul 1820  Westbury, Wiltshire, Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 3 Sep 1820  Westbury Wiltshire England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • Christened in the Old Meeting Independent Church
    Gender Male 
    General event MARRIAGES
    Charles was married three times but he did not have any children. His first wife was Sarah Ann Hogben. They were married in Tiers Hotel in Crafters in the Mount Lofty Ranges in 1843. She was 17 years old and he was 23 years. Sarah died after they had been married for 28 years (ie about 1871). [research: Check whether they had a daughter, Sarah Elizabeth in 1845]. He married his second wife, Julia Ann Tee in 1871 and his third wife was Josephine Wundenberg in 1872. There is some confusion about when he actually married Julie and Josephine. The marriage to Julie seems to have been soon after Sarah's death. And we must question the marriage to Josephine just a year after he married Julia - so maybe the date, 15th May 1872, was Jospehine's birthdate rather than marriage date. [research: Check this]
     
    Notes for biography "I believe that Charles Maidment jr was taken in by one of the Maidment relatives at Meadows in his final years, seems like he might have had the dt's or perhaps something worse from his time as a sailor." (This note was by Craig Fischer)   [3
    Notes for biography Land :
    * 1855 SA Directory for Bugle Ranges Henry Saltmarsh and William Maidment listed as farmers. William would have been 20 years old. He may not have owned his own land at Bugle. He went on to success. [research: Who is his William.]
    * Carl Gustav Schedlich was an early Macclesfield pioneer who wrote his memoirs. "At Macclesfield he was engaged by Henry Saltmarsh as a bullock driver and by Charles Maidment in the reaping season. From these men he learned enough about farming that he could start up on his own." (ref: 'Macclesfield, Relections along the Angas' by Jim Faull, 1980, p39)
    * The following are ref : Craig Fisher, emails on 3rd June 2013 and 7th July 2013
    > I have one suggested section number for the Maidments and Ellises, 2826 but it is uncertain. If they did own the land then I will be able to find it in the land-title office archives.
    > I think the Maidment's farm at Tinpot and the Inn were on section 1789 possibly the one highlighted in the attached .jpg
    > The main road going past is the Wistow Rd originally the main Rd to Melbourne. The diagonal Rd meeting it at the SW corner is Wheal Ellen Rd which came from the Tin mine. I'm guessing that the Inn stood at that corner and the other Rd heading east from there is probably Everleigh Rd (now unnamed afaik) The town of Woodchester is in that cluster of allotments a little further south.

     
    Notes for biography Note by Robyn Fisher: I am given to understand in 1838 Charles Maidment was a sailor aboard the 'Hero' with William Howlett, Edward Hogben, and William Hogben, a boat captained by Walter Watson Hughes. These fellow sailors and ship's captain were to remain in close contact with Charles throughout his life.  
    Notes for biography Note by Robyn Fisher: The oldest sibling is Edwin Charles Jnr, or Charles as is found in some records. He was born in Westbury, Wiltshire, on 1 July 1820. He was christened on 3 September 1820 in the Old Meeting Independent Church, Westbury. His parents are listed as Charles Maidment and Esther Dool.  
    Notes for biography Which Charles Maidment? It is not clear whether it is the father or son involved in the following activities.

    HAULAGE:
    Charles ran a twice daily haulage service between Adelaide and the Forrester's Arms Inn in the Tiers (Mount Lofty Ranges) - timber to Adelaide and Tiermans' wares from Adelaide - in the early 1840s. (ref : Robyn Fisher's website, William and Mary, p 12) [research: Which Charles is this - father or son]

    LAND:
    The ownership of the following land in Macclesfield, was originally owned by the elder, but eventually both of them. (ref : Email from Colin Semmler, 20th May 2013 - Jim Faull's book ?Macclesfield, reflections along the Angas?).
    * 1843: Maidment, Yates, Ellis and Lillecrapp had gardens in the town.
    * 1844: Charles Maidment - 140 acres in Macclesfield 9 acres wheat, 1/4 acre potatoes, 18 cattle, 7 pigs. This would be senior Maidment as junior would have been only 24 years old. pigs (ref : Allen's Almanac 1845 and Declaration of Acreage in South Australian Register February 1846)
    * 1849: declaration of acreage. C. Maidment 140 acres.
    * 1853: petition of rate payers to establish a district council. Both Henry Saltmarsh and Charles Maidment are on this. (ref : 'Macclesfield, Relections along the Angas' by Jim Faull, 1980, p39)
    * 1855: SA Directory for Bugle Ranges Henry Saltmarsh and William Maidment listed as farmers. William would have been 20 years old. He may not have owned his own land at Bugle. He went on to success. Carl Gustav Schedlich was an early Macclesfield pioneer who wrote his memoirs. "At Macclesfield he was engaged by Henry Saltmarsh as a bullock driver and by Charles Maidment in the reaping season. From these men he learned enough about farming that he could start up on his own." (ref : 'Macclesfield, Relections along the Angas' by Jim Faull, 1980, p39)
    * Lot 1788 near Woodchester
    * Section 61-62, Macclesfield : In the early 1840s they had a small stone cottage built by Edward Sleep. It was only two rooms and at one stage housed three families. (ref : William and Mary, p 16 & 17, from Robyn Fisher?s website)
    * In 1869 (the same year his wife Sarah died) he built a hotel at Woodchester and named it Everley Arms Inn. It was formally the Tin Pot Inn.

    HOTEL:
    Charles (the father) became the hotel manager of the Tin Pot Hotel at Winchester (later it was renamed to Everleigh Arms). Later this was taken over by his son, Charles, and then by Maylin Rogers (Maylin was his son-in-law, married to Julia). Caution is need regarding the he following incidents as they might be either the father or son:-
    * In 1855, Charles was fined 1 pound in the Local Court at Mount Barker for not having had his lamp alight from sunset to sunrise on 2nd April 1855. "His Worship thought the isolated position of the house in the distant bush rendered it particularly desirable that the lamp should be kept alight, in order that the benighted traveller might be guided to a place of accommodation." (ref : Tinpot in Trove)
    * 1860: ?Charles Maidment of Evelyn Inn, was charged with having received a silver watch in payment or as a pledge for liquor. August Dainke, the owner of the watch, deposed that the watch was placed in Mr. Maidment's hands to be raffled, and that they had some drink on the watch; that he had subsequently tried to get the watch back, but that Maidment refused to give it to him, unless he paid 19s for the drink. Richard Kemp deposed that he went with Dainke and two other men to give the watch to Mr. Maidment to be raffled for; that at the request to the last witness, he handed the watch to Maidment and that after that they had some drink, but that it was not had on the watch, but at his own expense, and that he had to pay for it himself. A third witness was called, but did not appear. J. Boak deposed that he knew nothing at all about either the watch or the drink. The Bench (W Rankine and L Herbert) considered that the charge was not proved, and dismissed the information.? (SA Weekly Chronicle, 16th June 1860
    * "When I visited Woodchester in 1978 I spoke to an old woman who told me that the Tin Pot was completely demolished many years ago. I know that since then a team of archaeologists (for want of a better name.... probably bottle scavengers) dug up the site. I could not now take you to the site, but presume it was on Everleigh Road as it was also called the Everleigh Inn. I have a little information about the Tin Pot (in my Maidment history) which I found in the Woodchester local history book.... don't ask me for the name and author. I read it in 1998 when staying with Saltmarsh relly in Langhorne Creek (since deceased). There may be a copy in the library. I think I sent you both my Maidment file. If I didn't please let me know. There could be a copy of that book in Strathalbyn library". (ref : Colin Semmler, email 20th May 2103)
    * "I visited Woodchester for a closer look yesterday, I suspect that the large building with stables etc on the corner of the Callington and Wistow Rds might be the much modified descendent relic of the Tinpot Inn but will need careful searching of section #'s and titles to be certain. Anyway that spurred me on to spend a long time digging through trove for all mentions of the Tinpot/Everly/Everleigh arms which leads me to the conclusion that business there was well over by about 1890/1900 and there is one article which is a reminiscence of long gone watering holes including the Tinpot. I'll send the distilled texts when I get home this evening since they flesh out the whole story a little more." (ref : Craig Fischer, email 20th May 2013).
    * [research: Charles was associated with many hotels. What is the connection between Tiers Tea Rooms, Forrester's Arms, Sawyer?s Arms Hotel, Crafer's Inn, Tin Pot Inn, Tiers Hotel, Evelyn Arms and Temple Bar - some of these may be alternative names for the same place.]

     
    Immigration Migration : Charles first came to Australia as a sailor on the Hero in 1838 (ref : Robyn Fisher). Also on the Hero was a Walter Maidment - maybe he was a cousin or uncle. Charles soon returned to England and later migrated with his family on the Charles Kerr in 1840.   [2
    Occupation Occupation :
    * Seaman
    * Carpenter and joiner on passenger list when migrating in 1840 (ref : Robyn Fisher and Hodge Index)
    * Publican
    * Haulage
     
    Residence * Woodchester
    * Ashbourne 
    Died 2 Aug 1884  [1
    Buried Meadows Cemetery Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1053  Alexander & Jessie
    Last Modified 29 Jul 2018 

    Father Edwin Charles (Charles) MAIDMENT,   b. 26 Jul 1795, Sedgehill, Wiltshire, England, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Oct 1865, Strathalbyn, SA, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years) 
    Mother Esther Fanny DOEL,   b. 1800, Westbury, Wiltshire, UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jun 1866, Strathalbyn, SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years) 
    Married 26 Oct 1819  Westbury, Wiltshire Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Old Meeting Independent Church in Westbury, Wiltshire
    Children * Charles & Esther had 8 children baptized in the Westbury Independant Old Meeting House where the parents were married.
    * Note by Robyn Fisher: Together Charles and Esther had the following children: Edwin Charles Jnr (Charles) (1820-1884), Fanny (1824-1857), Harriet Jane (Jane) (1826-1890), gpi Ransom (1828-1906) my great great grandmother, Elizabeth Burbage/ Burbridge (1832-1873), William Joseph (1832-1898), Mary Ann Horrell (1837-1841), George James (1840-1916), and Julia Olivia (1845-1921).  
    Residence The family migrated on the 'Charles Kerr' that arrived on 17th June 1840. 
    Residence They lived in Westbury before they migrated in 1840. In Australia, they lived in Ashburne, Macclesfield, Tinpopt, Bugle Ranges, Bullcreek and Strathablyn.   [4
    Wedding Note by Robyn Fisher: On 26 October 1819 when Charles was 24, he married Esther Fanny Doel, in the Old Meeting Independent Church in Westbury, in Wiltshire in England. According to the Nimrod Index, he put his mark, she wrote her name. The witnesses were Job and Hannah Doel. I am not sure as to the relationship the witnesses were to Esther. They were married by Rev. Henry Gwynther, Curate. 
    Family ID F347  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Sarah Ann HOGBEN,   b. 1826,   d. 18 Aug 1869  (Age 43 years) 
    Married 23 Nov 1843  Crafers in the Tiers Hotel in the Mount Lofty Ranges Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Children Children : Charles and Sarah did not have any children.
    However Pam Maidment queried (per email to Don Gordon on 4th April 2018) that maybe they had a daughter Sarah Elizabeth, born 1845.  
    Last Modified 4 Apr 2018 
    Family ID F365  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Julia Ann TEE,   d. 14 Jan 1872 
    Married 5 Dec 1871  Mount Barker SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 6
    Last Modified 4 Apr 2018 
    Family ID F437  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Josephine VON WUNDENBERG,   b. 1828, Hildersheim, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 May 1900, Woodchester, SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years) 
    Married 1872  Strathalbyn SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Last Modified 26 Mar 2018 
    Family ID F438  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    Charles Kerr - ship passengers in 1840 - Maidment family
    Charles Kerr - ship passengers in 1840 - Maidment family

    Documents
    Edwin Charles Maidment - notes by Kaylene Selfeldt
    Edwin Charles Maidment - notes by Kaylene Selfeldt
    Charles Maidment & Tinpot - newspaper items
    Charles Maidment & Tinpot - newspaper items
    Everley, Tin Pot & Woodchester
    Everley, Tin Pot & Woodchester
    By Eric A Cross

    Stories
    2.24 - Shropshire sheep - Who was the first to bring them to Australia?
    2.24 - Shropshire sheep - Who was the first to bring them to Australia?
    There are competing claims about Shropshire sheep - with connections with the Way, Gordon & Maidment families.
    (By Don Gordon, updated in June 2019)

  • Sources 
    1. [S80] Barbara Regan, nee Wilson - more evidence required.

    2. [S73] Kate Arnold - via WikiTree.

    3. [S83] Craig Fischer, Email to Don Gordon on 17th Aug 2018 .

    4. [S75] Barbara Regan, nee Wilson - scrap book - see STORIES directory, From Barbara's family history scrap book.

    5. [S52] RobynEllisFisher, William and Mary p 14, from Robyn Fisher?s website). .

    6. [S74] Pam Maidment - ID 1317, Email to Don Gordon on 4th April 2018.